Dubbio subwoofer meglio 1 o 2? E quale/i?

[Ale55andr0]

i tuoi gusti sono moooooolto professionali

Si', ma in generale sono per la regola "più grande è meglio è"

Grazie per la risposta sul cestello.

Ciao.

prego

[grezzo72]

Assolutamente non e' vietato dire che e' una bomba pero' a sto punto mi chiedo: ma i sub non bomba quali sono?

forse mi hai frainteso, ma io la penso esattamente come te!

EDIT

ci vorrebbe un po' + di spirito critico.........anche verso gli HRS però!

[kaneda4]

12plus?

Si

che fa tremare tutto un 8" in un appartamento

Se continuiamo a parlare per sentito dire non andiamo da nessuna parte, credere o non credere quando qualcuno esprime un giudizio è una questione personale e molte volte si va contro qualcuno solo per il gusto di farlo, io l'unico consiglio che posso dare a chi non crede che un 8" possa far tremare un muro o un pavimento è di andare ad ascoltarselo, ma dare del bugiardo a qualcuno senza certezza non rientra nei miei modi di vivere in una comunità
Poi è ovvio che se come paragone prendiamo un sub con due AP da 15" che pesa come un cristiano e con 1500watt. di potenza, allora anche le espressioni "esagerate" di un spl 12 potrebbero far ridere, dunque tutto è relativo.

[grezzo72]

ho cancellato la frase incriminata perchè forse potrebbe essere offensiva e me ne dispiaccio.

c'è da dire però che io ho un 8" direi di discreta qualità ma non mi sognerei mai di dire che fa tremare tutto e che mi da pugni allo stomaco ma dico che è un bel sentire e nel canale LFE fa il suo "sporco" lavoro egregiamente.....non so se mi sono spiegato!

[kaneda4]

.....non so se mi sono spiegato!

Alla perfezione direi
PS: il mio non era un discorso mirato esclusivamente al tuo post ma a qualcosa di più generalizzato e rivolto a tutti.

[Luca_CH]

In teoria questo maledetto Empire dovrebbe dare il famoso pugno allo stomaco

Qualche commento da un forum americano:

Build Quality:
This sub has some of the best build quality in a sub $1000 subwoofer I've seen. It's the smallest sub but weighs as much as the others. Everything about it shows it was well built. From the enclosure to the amp and driver they seem put together very well. Everything is flush and there is no defects whatsoever. Top notch build quality.

Shipping time:
The Epik, along with the 18.1, were the first subs to arrive. However as I mentioned before CHT is in PA so for the Empire to arrive the same day is amazing. Sometimes though Epik runs out of stock and you'll have to wait awhile for the next run but it's like eD subs, they're definitely worth the wait.

Aesthetics/WAF:
This sub was my wife's favorite. So that should pretty much tell you everything. In fact if it was a little taller she said she would've kept it upstairs. That surprised me. It's compact, inert, and while the finish isn't as nice as some of the others, it's still more than nice enough to put in a living room. This sub definitely has the highest WAF.

Plug n Play:
Pretty much. You might wanna do a sub crawl like for the CS18.1 and A7s-450, but it seemed to us that the Empire didn’t suffer as badly from a non-optimal location and orientation as the other subs. It actually seemed to do quite well wherever we put it. We guess that’s because of the opposing driver configuration.



Music:
1) I Love You Bass – regularly hit 104-106db, peaked @ 109db. Its funny that of all the subs this one had the lowest spl's yet on the low note of the song I felt it moved more air and had more oomph than any other sub on this particular track. (Ethan felt the HSU had the most oomph though.)
2) Low Roads – regularly hit 113-115db, peaked @ 117db. Hit 123db @ 1 meter! The Empire seemed to have the most “punch” of the group. Not that the other’s didn’t have punch, its just the Empire had enough punch to make us notice it stood a little taller than the rest.

Movies:
1) Cloverfield - qwik-e-mart walk-by and bridge destruction
a. at reference level hit regularly hit 106-108, peaked around 111db during the walk by scene. Regularly hit 107-109 and 114db was absolute peak during bridge scene

2) Flight of the Phoenix - Plane Crash sequence
a. at -5 from reference level consistently hit 110-114, and pegged the meter several times (116db+) (this scene was hard to measure because from 110 to 116+ was too big of a variance to keep the meter at one setting, and we didn’t have a reliable second SPL meter that day)

3) Transformers 2: Return of the Fallen (RotF) - Intro sequence
a. at reference level regularly hit 108-109, peaked @ 111db a few times. This scene for some reason doesn’t hit the SPLs the other movies scenes do, but it always sounds LOUD. A lot louder than the numbers indicate.

4) Kung-Fu Panda - “Skadoosh”
a. at reference level it hit 108db

5) The Incredible Hulk (2008) - Sonic Cannons scene
a. at reference level it averaged 108-109db, peaked at 112db

Customer Service:
Chad isn’t on message boards as much as some of the other ID companies (which we don’t see as a bad thing), but he is the owner of Epik, and he does make time for his customers. We haven’t spoken with him as much as CHT and eD, but he seems like a great guy to deal with, and as far as we can tell from the official Epik thread the Empire is a pretty reliable sub, so there shouldn’t be too much need for CS after you get your sub all set up. However, if you do he takes care of his customers as well as anyone. The only negative with dealing with Epik is sometimes Chad can take a little bit responding to emails, but since it's a small company you have to expect some sacrifices to get the high quality products they put out out at those prices.

Recommendation to Manufacturer/room for improvement:
Well there isn’t much to say here. Moving the sub around as much as we did, we did notice there’s not much room to get our fingers under it, and we’d often get our fingers pinched when setting it down on a hard surface. So slightly thicker feet would be nice. And maybe a bigger discount for buying two!

What we like/were impressed with:
We like that the empire is inert. And for a compact sub, the fact that this thing can run with the big dogs is impressive. In fact, check this out:

Ethan says: The first day we got it, I had to go back to work after unboxing it, but Adam continued to listen (don’t think he even noticed I left). As I walked out to my car about 45ft (measured) from the corner of the house the Empire occupied, I clearly heard Cloverfield thuds. And then when it happened again, I realized – I wasn’t just hearing it, I could feel it shaking the ground beneath me!

That’s why we suspect the Empire might’ve put up even better numbers if we tested it in the location it was in on the day we unboxed it.


Who should buy this sub:
Recommended for people who’s primary concern is WAF (both small size and good looks), mid-bass slam, build quality, plug-n-play and bottom end extension*, and are willing to possibly give up 1 or 2db in max SPL to satisfy those concerns.

*It should be noted that of the three sealed subs the Empire was the only one to have solid extension down to 20hz – and again remember we did no sort of EQ’ing to this sub, and no room correction for any of them.


Preso da:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1313176

[Doraimon]

Se non te lo dà un sub con 2 coni da 15" allora cambia hobby !
Prega solo che in 20mq non sia un tantinello esagerato altrimenti piangerai in turco.

[Luca_CH]

praticamente sono più grandi le casse della stanza.....

ma cmq dietro ha un'apertura di quasi 2 metri....dovrebbe contare no?

non è una stanza chiusa......ecco ora...mi preoccupo

Cmq arrivata seconda email, da 4 a 7 giorni....speriamo in venerdì quindi!!! Poi vi dirò che è una BOMBA promesso!!

[kaneda4]

Prega solo che in 20mq non sia un tantinello esagerato

17 mq

Poi vi dirò che è una BOMBA promesso!!

E anche qualcosa in più spero

[grezzo72]

prendo spunto dalla rece inglese postata da Luca per segnalare che la traccia audio di kung-fu panda (punto 4 movies) per il canale LFE è davvero notevole!
l'ho visto l'altro gg con i miei figli e.....oh è davvero 'na bomba!!!
....magari era anche aiutata dal taglio dei miei frontali a 70hhz ma comunque danzava che era un piacere la membrana del mio SUB!

...poi il film fa davvero scompisciare!

[Doraimon]

Non ti farà saltare dal divano ma è sicuramente più "armonioso" l'ascolto con il tuo sub

[Luca_CH]

Che cosa suona più armonioso?

[Doraimon]

L'insieme a casa di Grezzo

[dinamite2]

perche hai ascoltato gia quello di Luca?

[Doraimon]

Che c'entra Luca? Se è per questo non ho ascoltato nemmeno l'impianto di Grezzo....dico solo che sulla carta l'assemblaggio del tutto rispetto alle dimensioni dell'ambiente mi fanno pensare ad un suono più armonioso, lineare ed equilibrato nel suo insieme nonostante un sub da 8".
Quello da 2 15" avrebbe fatto la pipì fuori dal vaso...mettiamola così.