Il Futuro del Plasma...

aznable-r ha detto:
la pioneer ha in arrivo delle perdite pazzesche per quest'anno e continuando così non ci arriva al 2010; in altre parole fine del pasma per quanto mi riguarda

o pioneer o morte insomma...

il futuro del plasma non puo' essere pioneer per il seguente motivo:

pioneer
qualita' 9
rapporto qualita' prezzo 6

panasonic
qualita' 8.5
rapporto qualita' prezzo 9

ragionando cosi' e senza fare i tifosi snob quale prendereste?

il futuro del plasma per quanto mi riguarda e' roseo perche' per contrastare l'avanzata degli lcd occorre la qualita' del plasma e i prezzi che solo panasonic e i coreani possono fare
 
IukiDukemSsj360 ha detto:
:)

1) diminuire i consumi energetici tutti i prodotti saranno chiamati ad adottare tecnologie più evolute. = NeoPDP

Andremo avanti con i Plasma-Euro 5 e chi l'ha già preso a targhe alterne, con possibile verifica degli ausiliari casa per casa.
 
caesar70 ha detto:
o pioneer o morte insomma...

il futuro del plasma non puo' essere pioneer per il seguente motivo:

pioneer
qualita' 9
rapporto qualita' prezzo 6

panasonic
qualita' 8.5
rapporto qualita' prezzo 9

ragionando cosi' e senza fare i tifosi snob quale prendereste?

1) che la qualità di panasonic non è così vicina a quella di pioneer
2) che i prezzi non sono così differenti

il 5090 costa 3000 euro di listino e 2500 comprandolo online
con quale modello di panasonic lo dovrei confrontare scusa? con un pz8 per avere il tuo rapporto.

e poi io non sono tifoso di una particolare tecnologia o di una particolare marca; al momento per me il top è pioneer e quindi vado su plasma, ma è innegabile che i miglioramenti di panasonic ultimamente non sono certo stati epocali (neanche samsung in effetti e gli lg plasma sono proprio delle lampadine), mentre gli lcd da 3 anni a questa parte sono migliorati in maniera mostruosa, quindi magari fra un anno o 2 il top potrebbe essere l'lcd.

poi non tutti facciamo il discorso della qualità/prezzo, posto che la tv che ho in firma non l'ho pagata esattamente un patrimonio
 
Tapinaz ha detto:
Andremo avanti con i Plasma-Euro 5 e chi l'ha già preso a targhe alterne

no,penso che ci saranno gli incentivi per la rottamazione :D

ragazzi la serie z dovrebbe differire dalla serie V solo x il box esterno,la qualità video e audio dovrebbe essere uguale.
mi sbaglio o ha qualche filtro, scaler o migliorie immagine e audio diverse..
 
mi pare sia stato già detto, comunque c'è il press release delle novità, con le spiegazioni dettagliate delle serie e di ciascun modello, diagonale per diagonale, e le foto, pesa 50 mega ed è sul sito UK e USA.
se non è stato fatto posso fare copia incolla delle parti più interessanti
 
Chi compra panasonic generalmente o punta sulle serie minori 80/85, che hanno lo stesso pannello e prestazioni comunque molto vicine alle serie maggiori spendendo cifre notevolmente più basse o non ha lo spazio per posizionare un 50" ed è obbligato nella scelta, almeno finché pioneer (speriamo con i NeoPDP) non si decida a proporre finalmente una tv hd da 42/46". Obbiettivamente ora come ora, con i NeoPDP imminenti e con i prezzi che corrono, non ha senso comprarsi un top di gamma panasonic, i kuro 9G hanno una qualità superiore e la differenza di prezzo ormai è poca.
 
specifiche delle serie

PANASONIC VIERA Plasma HDTV
Z1 Series
The flagship VIERA plasma in 2009 is the Z1 series, with a revolutionary one inch thin panel design and Wireless HD connectivity to deliver the ultimate sleek, uncluttered HDTV viewing experience. Also included on the VIERA Z1 is VIERA CAST web menu with the new streaming HD movie rental capability via Amazon Video-on-Demand. The Neo PDP design of the VIERA Z1 produces a brighter picture, deeper blacks, improved native contrast ratio (40,000:1) and Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution. Other Z1 model features include;1080p resolution, a THX Certified Display; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; and VIERA Link, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The Z1 series will be available in the summer of 2009 in the new TC-54Z1, 54-inch class screen size (54” measured diagonally).

V10 Series
The VIERA V10 series are slim, 2-inch thin plasma HDTVs with built-in tuners. The V10 series offer such cutting edge innovations as Digital Cinema Color™ which helps to deliver all movie-essential colors, full THX Display certification, and the VIERA CAST web menu with Amazon Video on Demand services. The Neo PDP design of the V10 series features 1080p resolution; deeper blacks, improved native contrast ratio of 40,000:1; Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Link, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The V10 series is available in a 65-inch class (64.8” measured diagonally), 58-inch class (58” measured diagonally), 54-inch class (54” measured diagonally), and a 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally) screen size. The 50-inch model with one-sheet-of-glass design will be available in May 2009 and the remaining models will be available in the summer of 2009.

G10 Series
The VIERA G10 Plasma series include features like the VIERA CAST web menu, a THX certified Display, and VIERA Image Viewer for playing back digital still images and AVCHD videos recorded on SD Memory Cards. The NEO PDP design of the G10 series also offers 1080p resolution, deeper blacks, improved native contrast ratio of 40,000:1, Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution, an Infinite Black panel, 600Hz Sub-field Drive, as well as Game Mode and VIERA Link. The G10 series will be available in a 54-inch class (54” measured diagonally), 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally), 46-inch class (46” measured diagonally), and 42-inch class (41.6” measured diagonally) screen size. The 42-inch, 46-inch and 50-inch HDTVs will be available in March 2009, while the 54-inch model will be available in May 2009.

S1 Series
The VIERA S1 Plasma series offers a broad range of HDTVs which also represent the first VIERA plasma series to feature the new NEO PDP designs. Key features of the S1 series include Full-Time 1080 TV lines of motion resolution, which eliminate traditional HDTV motion blur. The S1 series also feature THX certified displays together with VIERA Image Viewer. Other features include 1080p resolution; a native contrast ratio of 40,000:1; an Infinite Black panel; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; and a Game Mode. The S1 series will compliment the V10 65” screen size with its own 65-inch class (64.7” measured diagonally) product. Other S1 sizes include a 58-inch class (58” measured diagonally), a 54-inch class (54” measured diagonally), a 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally), a 46-inch class (46” measured diagonally), and a 42-inch class (41.6” measured diagonally). The 42-inch, 46-inch and 50-inch HDTVs will be available in March 2009 while the 54-inch will be available in the summer of 2009.

X1 Series
Panasonic’s focus in 2009 continues to be on high definition 1080p HDTVs but the VIERA X1 series represent a line of 720p plasma HDTVs which help Panasonic deliver on its promise to satisfy consumer demands for differing HDTV resolution options. The X1 VIERA HDTVs offer stunning picture performance with a 600Hz Sub-field Drive that delivers razor-sharp motion focus, VIERA Image Viewer for sharing digital photos with friends and family, and VIERA Link control of all compatible A/V home entertainment components via a single remote. The X1 series also feature improved native contrast ratio of 30,000:1, an Infinite Black panel, and a Game Mode. The VIERA X1 plasmas are available in a 50-inch class (49.9” measured diagonally) and 42-inch class (41.6” measured diagonally).
 
modello per modello

Model Features Availability SRP*

TC-P54Z1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Wireless HD ™Connectivity; thin 1” Design Panel and Tuner Box configuration; VIERA CAST™; THX® Certified Display; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; VIERA Link™; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel; 24P Cinematic Playback, 4 HDMI inputs, Swivel Base Summer, 2009

TC-P65V10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Digital Cinema Color; THX® Certified Display; VIERA CAST™; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field drive; 24P Cinematic Playback, 4 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1Infinite Black Panel August, 2009

TC-P58V10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Digital Cinema Color; THX® Certified Display; VIERA CAST™; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; VIERA Link™; 600 Hz Sub-field drive; 24P Cinematic Playback, 4 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel August, 2009

TC-P54V10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Digital Cinema Color; THX® Certified Display; VIERA CAST™; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; 24P Cinematic Playback, 4 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel June, 2009

TC-P50V10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Digital Cinema Color; THX® Certified Display; VIERA CAST™; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; 24P Cinematic Playback, 4 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1 Dynamic 1,000,000:1/Infinite Black Panel, 2” Design with Single-Sheet-of-Glass, Swivel Base. June, 2009

TC-P54G10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; VIERA CAST™; Viera Link™; THX® Certified Display; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel May, 2009

TC-P50G10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; VIERA CAST™; Viera Link™; THX® Certified Display; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P46G10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; VIERA CAST™; Viera Link™; THX® Certified Display; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P42G10 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; VIERA CAST™; Viera Link™; THX® Certified Display; VIERA Image Viewer™ with AVCHD Playback; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P65S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution;; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel August, 2009

TC-P58S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel August, 2009

TC-P54S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution,; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel May, 2009

TC-P50S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P46S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P42S1 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; Full-Time 1080 lines Moving Picture Resolution; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; AR filter; Game mode; 3 HDMI inputs, Contrast Ratio: Native 40,000:1/Infinite Black Panel March, 2009

TC-P50X1 720p Resolution; Over 900 Lines of Moving Resolution, 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; AR Filter; Game Mode; 3 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio Native 30,000:1/Infinite Black Panel February, 2009

TC-P42X1 720p Resolution; Over 900 Lines of Moving Resolution, 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; AR Filter; Game Mode; 3 HDMI inputs; Contrast Ratio Native 30,000:1/Infinite Black Panel February, 2009

TC-54PS14 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Contrast Ratio Native 30,000:1/Infinite Black Panel; Over 900 lines of Moving Resolution; VIERA Link™

TC-50PS14 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Contrast Ratio Native 30,000:1/Infinite Black Panel; Over 900 lines of Moving Resolution; VIERA Link™

TC-42PS14 Neo PDP; 1080p Resolution; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; Contrast Ratio Native 30,000:1/Infinite Black Panel; Over 900 lines of Moving Resolution; VIERA Link™

TC-50PX14 720p Resolution; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; Over 900 lines of Moving Resolution; Contrast Ratio Native 15,000:1/Infinite Black Panel

TC-42PX14 720p Resolution; 600Hz Sub-field Drive; VIERA Image Viewer™; VIERA Link™; Over 900 lines of Moving Resolution; Contrast Ratio Native 15,000:1/Infinite Black Panel
 
un press release da 50 MB l'ho trovato, ma sui NeoPdp riporta solo l'elenco delle funzionalità e le foto dei vari modelli. Non trovo alcun dato "fisico" (dimensione e pesi). Forse non è questo?
 
grazie! è quello che alla fine ho provato a scaricare, ma se non ho visto male non ci sono i dati dimensionali (LxHxP) e di peso dei singoli modelli.
 
saranno annunciati più avanti. alla fine la serie z sarà di un pollice e le altre a salite. dai 2 pollici in sù.

ma che vi importa alla fine? tanto nessuno fà miracoli e quindi le grandezze saranno simili per tutti
 
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