Il vento per me è cambiato... talking about the home network

[cicico]

E cosa ne pensate dell' HP proliant n40l come server/nas casalingo? .

Anch'io l'avevo considerato per poi passare ad un HTPC Amd 8core con disco SSD di sistema e con quatto dischi in RAID10 per i dati, purtroppo la rumorosità della ventola del processore è notevole e, pur avendo ridotto le tensioni e il clock e tarato le velocità di rotazione ventola e la soglia di temperatura, tende ad assorbire il calore generato dai dischi. Il rumore mi da fastidio, quindi dovrò pensare di spostare i dischi, sto valutando sia NAS sia la soluzione Microserver HP che in questo caso potrebbe essere utile abbinata al Win Home Server.

 

[mmanfrin]

Egregio articolo sui meccanismi di protezione adottati nei Blu-ray, e sul perché "rippare" i dischi potrebbe diventare un problema

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5693/...top-worrying-and-love-blurays-selfdestruction

At this juncture, why are we devoting so much attention to Cinavia? As mentioned in an earlier section, there are premium DMAs (Digital Media Adapter) like the Popcorn Hour C300 and the Dune Smart series that have a Blu-ray license also. The next generation version of these players may be forced to implement Cinavia support. Users with legitimate backups wanting the full Blu-ray experience and using such players will end up being affected. Our main aim with this piece is to appeal to the Blu-ray industry to consider personal backups as fair use and exempt ISO capable DMAs from Cinavia.

We hope the industry sees reason with the argument that ISOs are not the preferred medium for pirates. Instead, it is files in MKV format with sizes ranging from 4 to 20 GB that are most popular. The latter category is not played back with Cinavia enabled players, and hence, Cinavia is rendered useless. Once premium DMAs get infected with Cinavia detection routines, legitimate purchasers of Blu-rays who back up their collections will see no point in investing in optical discs. Their money would be better spent on purchasing movies from Vudu or any other similar avenue. If it comes to the worst, the Blu-ray industry may even end up driving the legitimate consumers to piracy. The word-of-mouth from such 'power consumers' will also lead to a negative impression of the Blu-ray industry amongst consumers.

Chi ci guadagna da tutto questo?... la ditta Verance

Disc replicators / content providers pay four cents for each disc with Cinavia protected content. Production houses also have to provide $50 for each watermarked track. Blu-ray player manufacturers have to provide anywhere between $10,000 to $300,000 per annum depending on their unit volume if they want to embed a Cinavia detector in their firmware / software. Of course, Verance also strongly encourages its licensees to purchase the code for the watermark detector from them. We were not able to obtain an estimate of the price for the software.

Concordo con l'analisi sul perché molti preferiscano ancora i dischi fisici:

Many consumers tend to prefer instantly accessible versions of movies (such as those on Netflix / Vudu / iTunes / local copies / etc.) compared to Blu-rays because of the following reasons:

There is no need to sit through FBI warnings
There is no need to sit through unskippable trailers of upcoming movies
There is no risk of scratched optical media which might lead to errors during playback
There is usually no regional restriction to worry about

However, Blu-rays aren't going away any time soon even for consumers who have lot of bandwidth to spare. The main reason is the audio and video quality. Vudu comes close to matching Blu-ray quality with their 9 Mbps HDX stream and Dolby Digital Plus soundtracks, but the Blu-ray versions have a much higher bitrate ceiling and support for lossless audio, making them capable of delivering quality which is not going to be matched by streaming services any time in the near future.

E nuovamente, concordo sulla soluzione proposta... unire il meglio dei due mondi, ossia farsi i file da soli partendo dai dischi fisici:

Is it possible to combine the great quality of Blu-rays with instant and reliable access? The answer is a cautious affirmative. According to the current U.S. laws, it is illegal to circumvent copy protection on DVDs and Blu-rays. Unfortunately, the instant / reliable access part is not possible without stripping the content protection. That said, it is difficult to imagine a situation where the fact that a consumer has stripped the DRM from a purchased disc is known to the outside world (as long as it is not being distributed in a public manner). Given this situation, it is highly unlikely that backing up your discs is going to earn you a visit from the FBI, but AnandTech is not a site for legal advice. So, if you decide to act on the tips below, note that you are on your own.

There are three different types of Blu-ray backups which don't involve re-encoding the audio and video tracks, and you should choose one of the formats that meets your requirements:

ISO: An ISO file is a disc image that retains almost all the contents of the disc in a sector-by-sector copy format. It also retains the file system of the disc. Most tools that back up to this format strip out the AACS folder.
Folder structure: This is similar to an ISO backup in the sense that all the contents of the disc are retained. However, the file system on the disc is not carried over. This means that some file system level tricks to save upon space (such as the 3D video SSIF folders in MVC encoded Blu-rays) can't be retained.
MKV: This is undoubtedly the most popular format for storing HD movies. In this backup mode, a playlist title is chosen (a collection of M2TS files on the disc in a particular sequence). The M2TS files are concatenated in the right order and the unnecessary audio and video tracks are taken out as dictated by the user. The tracks are then remuxed into an MKV container.

 

[stealth82]

Non ho capito perché hai scritto "rippare i dischi potrebbe diventare un problema".

Cmq:

Waltz with Bashir - Original Blu-ray Load Times (mm:ss) PowerDVD 12 (Autostart) PowerDVD 12 (Already Running) NeoTV 550 (Autostart) Insert to First Video 00:47 00:20 00:54 Main Menu 01:41 01:04 01:38 Start of FBI Warnings 01:51 01:17 01:47 Start of Actual Movie 02:19 01:46 02:18


Waltz with Bashir - AnyDVD HD ISO Load Times (mm:ss) PowerDVD 12 (Autostart) PowerDVD 12 (Already Running) NeoTV 550 (Autostart) Insert to First Video 00:20 00:16 00:26 Main Menu 00:55 00:52 01:04 Start of FBI Warnings 01:07 01:02 01:15 Start of Actual Movie 01:37 01:32 01:46


Waltz with Bashir - MakeMKV Folder Structure Load Times (mm:ss) PowerDVD 12 (Autostart) PowerDVD 12 (Already Running) NeoTV 550 (Autostart) Insert to First Video NA 00:16 00:29 Main Menu NA 00:51 01:00 Start of FBI Warnings NA 01:01 01:09 Start of Actual Movie NA 01:31 01:40


Waltz with Bashir - MakeMKV MKV Load Times (mm:ss) PowerDVD 12 (Autostart) PowerDVD 12 (Already Running) NeoTV 550 (Autostart) Insert to First Video NA NA NA Main Menu NA NA NA Start of FBI Warnings NA NA NA Start of Actual Movie NA 00:04 00:05

As evident from the load times in the table above, it takes more than 2 minutes to start the main movie with the original disc, but takes less than 5 seconds with an MKV version. Purchasers of original Blu-rays usually view the movie multiple times, and it is really incomprehensible why the studios and the law don’t allow them to start the movie on the disc immediately.

LOL

E poi:

From our perspective, we feel that the Blu-ray industry (studios as well as the licensing authorities) is overpricing their technology in today’s connected world. Most of the Blu-ray features such as BD-Live and interactive BD-J content are just too much effort spent for very little return (because the consumer has no real interest in using them). The addition of new licensing requirements such as Cinavia are preventing the natural downward price progression of Blu-ray related technology. Instead of spending time, money and effort on new DRM measures that get circumvented within a few days of release, the industry would do well to lower the launch price of Blu-rays. There is really no justification for the current media pricing.

We also covered some wonderful tools that enable the consumers to enjoy their Blu-rays in the best possible manner. It is really disappointing that backing up discs after removing the content protection mechanism is illegal in many parts of the world.

In light of what we have covered in this piece, we do hope the mainstream consumers wake up and evaluate whether the Blu-ray industry is really worthy of their support.

Potevo scriverlo io

 

[relax]

Non ho capito perché hai scritto "rippare i dischi potrebbe diventare un problema".

Perché per coloro che attualmente rippano le iso dei BR e le riproducono con box tipo quelle citate nell'articolo, potrebbe non essere più possibile, una volta che questi Box e i nuovi BR vengano "infettati" da Cinavia?

 

[stealth82]

Sì beh, se devo rippare i films perché voglio evitare le inutili protezioni di certo non vado a prendere un player che mi reinfila nelle peste. Il problema è relativo e circoscritto a chi invece di mangiarsi i popcorn li usa per vederci i films. Ergo, non mi tange

 

[relax]

Della serie...

 

[mmanfrin]

Giusto per rimanere in tema, il mio Sony BDP-S790 è "infettato" con Cinavia (così come tutti i BD player prodotti dall'inizio del 2012) e mi aspetto che il numero di BD "infettati" da Cinavia aumenti nel tempo, rendendo di fatto impossibile per me leggere gli ISO con il lettore (a meno che il software che si occupa di rippare il disco, non venga modificato per "disinfettare" il disco dal Cinavia durante il rip).

PS: La ATV2 con Firecore legge le ISO senza problemi. Mi chiedevo però se il BDP-S790 quando legge le ISO applichi gli stessi trattamenti che applica ai dischi fisici, perché in tal caso la qualità dell'output dovrebbe essere migliore per il BDP-S790 rispetto alla ATV2.

 

[KwisatzHaderach]

... una volta che questi Box e i nuovi BR vengano "infettati" da Cinavia?

L'annosa guerra tra chi la protezione la mette e chi la leva.
Indovina chi fin'ora ha avuto la meglio?

 

[mmanfrin]

Ripropongo la domanda fatta più sopra:

Il lettore di DVD/BD quando legge un disco fisico può applicare tutta una serie di trattamenti al segnale per "migliorarlo"... che voi sappiate, tali trattamenti vengono applicati tutti in eugual misura anche ai file letti dallo stesso lettore di DVD/BD? In particolare, con le copie di backup dei dischi fisici?