TV 4K Sony ZD9 con Backlight Master Drive

[scei123]

Commento del proprietario di questo modello:

I know you folks want all sorts of technical details and pics, but I'm more of a "how does the picture really look" than a technical person. I'm certainly interested is some of the technical details that might affect the picture quality, even if not obvious with a regular image, but ultimately, it's the picture that counts.

The 65 Z9D picture quality is simply incredible. I spend hours watching it last night and this morning. What impressed me most was the depth and clarity of the image. The blacks were truly impressive as was the brightness of the image without any blooming or blown highlights that I could see. Colors were incredibly rich and pure looking. The animated Blu-ray movies I checked never looked better. The black levels and color fidelity of my Z9D are so beautiful, it's hard to imagine it being much better. And given what I think is superior shadow detail and motion handling of this set compared to the OLED's I've seen, I can't imagine being more satisfied with any other set.

I understand that these terms can be nebulous and very subjective. I've heard many people describe a 3D quality to an image. I've never been able to see that, until now. The picture just seems to be more "alive" and "vibrant" than any previous display I've seen. I'm wondering is this appearance is due to the greater local contrast from the master back light drive.

As good as my Sony 950B is (was), the 65Z9D is better. Earlier this year, to get HDR, I purchased the Sony 65" 930D. I knew I was trading FALD on the 950B for Sony's new Slim Backlight Drive. I had hoped it would be good enough. In the store, the 930D looked OK, but didn't cause me to swoon. Sadly, within an hour of setting it up at home, I knew I had made a mistake. The picture was good, but not nearly good enough when compared to my 950B. It lacked a vibrancy and clarity I had come to expect with my 950B. It was returned.

Enter the Z9D. In the store, even with terrible ambient lighting, I sensed a special quality to the image that really excited me. Throughout the evening of viewing many different sources, I was continually saying "wow" to myself. I know this is very subjective, and maybe I'm full of it, but this is one gorgeous display, even better than I expected. I saw absolutely no imperfections. Even if, when you folks do more sophisticated testing that I can do, you find a slight negative, I don't believe it would change my opinion of the image quality.

I'll be interested in hearing what other owners say about this display. I think it's the best set that Sony has every produced.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post46015217

[AlbertoPN]

In senso assoluto sono convinto anche io che OGGI, allo stadio attuale di sviluppo ma soprattutto commercializzazione, l'OLED ponga il fianco ancora a qualche critica e che abbia ampissimi margini di miglioramento ed anche di abbassamento dei prezzi di vendita.

Questo ZD9 sembra il non-plus-ultra delle soluzioni "accessorie" per spremere la tecnologia LCD al proprio limite fisiologico e tecnico. Probabilmente "più di così" non si potrà avere.

Ora, per un discorso proprio "terra terra", parlando in senso generale, sempre OGGI se avessi a disposizione 8.000€ per un TV (e lo spazio per posizionarlo), fra un OLED G6 65" o uno ZD9 75" prenderei senza dubbio questo ultimo.
Non perché si veda meglio o peggio, ma proprio perché già ad IFA e al prossimo CES ci saranno OLED migliori di questo G6 (o presentati da qualche altro partner OEM) che costeranno meno e daranno fisiologicamente di più.

Quindi se di "investimento" si può parlare (e ben inciso, non si può in questo campo) lo ZD9 rappresenta un traghetto che non obbliga a troppe rinunce (anzi ....) fino a che gli OLED saranno maturi al 100%, verosimilmente fra 3/4 anni, quando si saranno super diffusi e per gli appassionati "maniaci" (mi ci metto per primo) esisteranno dei modelli di super riferimento come oggi questo ZD9 solletica i palati degli stessi.

My 2 cent.

[scei123]

Hello everyone, thought I’d share some pictures of the 65ZD9 I took on my iPhone today. Yes I visited the Video & Audio Store again hoping to see the 75’’ in person but I had no luck I was told that Sony took the 75’’ with them yesterday they couldn’t keep it *sign*. Oh and yes sadly they moved the 65’’ back into it’s original terrible viewing place next to the window. *face palm* I know what rotten luck hugh? So terrible ambient outside lighting aside I was very impressed with the set again as you might have all guessed. Yes I’ll say it agin this is just one beautiful display and yes I really want one like now!
So back to my original assessment, the detail I was seeing on this display was plain impressive and these screen shot’s I took do not do it justice by any means. However I figure it’s better than showing you nothing right?

Anyway down the road I hope to get you all much better screen shot’s if I end up picking up the 75’’. Also I was just told today that Sony will not be releasing anything better anytime soon, this display the Z-Series will now be the top dog for at least the next 18 months. Also I was told that many movie studios are replacing their much smaller 30’’ OLED reference set’s with this set so that’s quite impressive if you think about it because those 30’’ OLED made by yes Sony are each $30k!

[xMOURINHOx]

saranno lunghi LUNGHI mesi di attesa

[scei123]

Anche durante l'evento tenutosi a Shanghai, uno speciale modello commemorativo 65ZD9G Sony ha annunciato, con una produzione limitata di 200 unità in Giappone e si è fatto di oro e platino (seduta e schienale) e un rivestimento in vetro zaffiro per aumentare il livello di nero e contrasto:

https://www.iznb.cn/question/37949

[Sam Cooper]

Emergono nuovi dettagli sui TV Sony ZD9. Questa serie, presentata lo scorso Luglio, si posiziona al top della gamma Sony. Al momento della presentazione non sono stati forniti dettagli approfonditi sulla retroilluminazione. Alcune indiscrezioni (si tratta quindi di notizie non ufficiali) provano ora a fare chiarezza. Secondo quanto riportato tutti ..........[CUT]

Urca!! 5184 led (per il 100")!?!?! Possibile??

[scei123]

Le ultime indiscrezioni suggeriscono molto più alto:

65" - 11440 Micro Leds (143 x 80)
75" - 15438 Micro Leds (166 x 93)
100" -27280 Micro Leds (220 x 124)

In distanza tra i LED di 1 cm:

65" - 143 x 80 -> 11440 zones
75" - 166 x 93 -> 15438 zones
100" - 221 x 124 -> 27404 zones

In distanza tra i LED di 2 cm:

65" - 72 x 40 -> 2880 zones
75" - 83 x 46 -> 3818 zones
100" - 110 x 62 -> 6820 zones

In distanza tra i LED di 3 cm:

65" - 48 x 27 -> 1296 zones
75" - 55 x 31 -> 1705 zones
100" - 74 x 42 -> 3108 zones


Oggi restano congetture .

[AlbertoPN]

Le ultime indiscrezioni suggeriscono molto più alto:

65" - 11440 Micro Leds (143 x 80)
75" - 15438 Micro Leds (166 x 93)
100" -27280 Micro Leds (220 x 124)

In distanza tra i LED di 1 cm:

65" - 143 x 80 -> 11440 zones
75" - 166 x 93 -> 15438 zones
100" - 221 x 124 -> 27404 zones

A parte questa piccola incongruenza numerica, direi comunque impressionante (se i dati sono confermati).

[scei123]

having gone thru a few setup screens etc with white text over black background, i can make a few ridiculously premature comments about the PQ. black is v good but prob not quite at the level of my former E6. blooming seems very well controlled on axis - see pic. offaxis there is a bit more. difficult to capture either way bc camera either hides it or greatly exaggerates the effect. brightness not overwhelming at all so far. again, that is all OOTB. more later when it gets dar

watching champs league qualifier now. wow Sony motion is sooo nice. motion flow off. clear upgrade on the OLED.

too soon to say about blacks. re:uniformity - grass is not greener. no banding but some DSE. hoping it will improve.

colors are excellent OOTB. combined with the excellent motion, it makes for a very natural looking picture. tons of headroom for brightness. haven't tried HDR yet.

Jump in brightness is v noticeable and welcome although tbf i never considered the E6 to be dim.

Just watched a bit of the last Harry Potter BD and it looked spectacular. based on brief viewing, im thinking near blacks are better than OLED. still too soon to be sure.

can't get over how good the potter movie looks on this. thinking local dimming must have been off when I first posted bc these blacks are really really good. transitions from black to just above black are seamless. no crush!

uverse, which is about as bad as it gets. ive been paying close attention to dark content, and so far i haven't noticed any of the macro blocking that I saw on the E6. while it's premature to draw conclusions, i do think up scaling is better. sorry. Ugh...i really hate sounding like a Sony fanboy.

i already have most of the LG demos on a flash drive. so far, the thing I'm most surprised by is not how much better this or the E6 is but how similar they look most of the time. Z9 really could pass for an OLED if you didn't know any better. both are amazing with good quality content

black bars are black. disappear in a dark room

one thing fald will never do as well as oleds - star fields. on the sharp saturn's rings demo, the oled was almost like being outside at night and looking up. z9 the blacks are black but stars are not quite as bright.

Solo che indica una certa DSE.









http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post46092049

[scei123]

REVIEW: http://www.whathifi.com/sony/kd-65zd9bu/review

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[marcocivox]

Sicuramente inferiore, da questa primissima recensione, rispetto all'OLED E6 di LG.

[AlbertoPN]

REVIEW: http://www.whathifi.com/sony/kd-65zd9bu/review

Solita carrellata di questa testata, niente di così tecnico o definitivo.
Fa specie che risulti "inferiore" alla "vecchia top" di gamma Sony: http://www.whathifi.com/sony/kd-75xd9405/review

Sono valutazioni sempre da prendere (molto) con le molle.

[marcocivox]

Mi sa che hai proprio ragione. Di tecnico non c'è nulla o quasi. Aspettiamo delle recensioni "vere" (e possibilmente di vederlo dal vivo) prima di dare dei giudizi!

[scei123]

La Sony XD9305 o Panasonic DX900 ha meglio puntuazione .

[AlbertoPN]

E io che credevo che in italiano si dicesse: "hanno miglior punteggio"

Scusa ... Mi è venuta così