Partita la nuova start up "Una Giornata Particolare" di Ettore Scola.
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Partita la nuova start up "Una Giornata Particolare" di Ettore Scola.
Qualcuno poi ha visto novecento edizione tedesca? Pareri?
Approfittando del prime day l'ho preso su amazon a 33 euro (era da tanto che aspettavo che scendesse di prezzo), e appena mi arriva faró la comparazione con la CG e la Wild Side, sperando che la compressione sia migliore.
Fateci sapere, gentilmente, se l'edizione tedesca abbia o meno i sottotitoli removibili. :confused:
I sottotitoli sono removibili.
Ciao
Arrivato anche a me. Confermo i sottotitoli removibili. A breve le comparazioni.
Ecco le comparazioni:
Tra Koch Films DE, Cecchi Gori IT e Eureka UK:
https://slow.pics/c/mHRb1t9n
Tra Koch Films DE, Cecchi Gori IT e Wild Side FR:
https://slow.pics/c/qeeULuXp
Report del disco 1 con il primo atto:
Codice:Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00000.MPLS AVC 2:43:35 47,502,400,896 48,748,330,088 38.71 34.73 DTS-HD Master 2.0 650Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Codice:
DISC INFO:
Disc Title: 1900 TEIL 1
Disc Label: 1900 TEIL 1
Disc Size: 48,748,330,088 bytes
Protection: AACS
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:43:35.931 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 47,502,400,896 bytes
Total Bitrate: 38.71 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 34726 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio German 650 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 650 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 657 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 657 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 666 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 666 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics German 25.428 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.410 kbps
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:43:35.931 47,502,400,896 38,714
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:13:56.126 32,516 kbps 48,195 kbps 00:06:55.540 37,875 kbps 00:00:58.558 36,493 kbps 00:09:09.257 169,513 bytes 897,044 bytes 00:05:07.348
2 0:13:56.126 0:12:00.344 34,959 kbps 46,221 kbps 00:15:29.261 37,938 kbps 00:15:29.261 36,384 kbps 00:15:29.303 182,258 bytes 568,297 bytes 00:19:42.806
3 0:25:56.471 0:06:52.036 34,927 kbps 44,755 kbps 00:28:21.199 37,110 kbps 00:28:12.941 36,258 kbps 00:28:21.199 182,095 bytes 612,798 bytes 00:30:26.324
4 0:32:48.508 0:05:16.357 34,946 kbps 44,471 kbps 00:37:11.062 36,796 kbps 00:34:41.788 36,041 kbps 00:36:26.434 182,193 bytes 407,107 bytes 00:38:04.824
5 0:38:04.865 0:09:57.263 34,983 kbps 43,767 kbps 00:38:06.742 36,953 kbps 00:43:41.952 36,235 kbps 00:41:43.000 182,387 bytes 620,771 bytes 00:48:02.087
6 0:48:02.129 0:15:08.032 34,959 kbps 45,335 kbps 00:50:33.488 37,504 kbps 01:00:32.795 36,256 kbps 00:51:44.309 182,260 bytes 704,612 bytes 00:48:04.006
7 1:03:10.161 0:06:26.219 34,969 kbps 45,090 kbps 01:05:09.322 37,670 kbps 01:07:38.054 36,274 kbps 01:06:52.466 182,313 bytes 513,657 bytes 01:03:12.121
8 1:09:36.380 0:13:59.505 34,986 kbps 45,717 kbps 01:19:22.466 37,094 kbps 01:10:44.698 36,225 kbps 01:18:30.330 182,401 bytes 586,876 bytes 01:10:14.793
9 1:23:35.885 0:06:13.373 34,709 kbps 45,584 kbps 01:29:13.348 38,628 kbps 01:29:07.300 36,188 kbps 01:26:36.191 180,959 bytes 475,192 bytes 01:24:04.080
10 1:29:49.258 0:14:28.701 34,876 kbps 46,048 kbps 01:29:53.388 37,280 kbps 01:33:17.508 36,095 kbps 01:38:04.420 181,827 bytes 646,577 bytes 01:31:47.919
11 1:44:17.960 0:10:34.258 34,958 kbps 46,644 kbps 01:51:25.637 37,695 kbps 01:53:48.905 36,259 kbps 01:48:03.894 182,254 bytes 644,631 bytes 01:47:45.000
12 1:54:52.218 0:05:43.509 34,931 kbps 46,756 kbps 01:58:36.317 37,637 kbps 01:57:44.182 36,533 kbps 01:59:29.912 182,115 bytes 478,313 bytes 01:55:17.535
13 2:00:35.728 0:10:02.310 34,971 kbps 48,290 kbps 02:03:48.629 37,890 kbps 02:07:05.743 36,192 kbps 02:07:05.743 182,320 bytes 585,076 bytes 02:07:05.784
14 2:10:38.038 0:11:51.877 34,989 kbps 48,776 kbps 02:17:32.911 37,728 kbps 02:15:45.053 36,219 kbps 02:16:08.910 182,416 bytes 480,688 bytes 02:17:28.949
15 2:22:29.916 0:12:24.952 34,962 kbps 47,959 kbps 02:26:12.555 38,079 kbps 02:30:58.549 36,436 kbps 02:32:35.437 182,274 bytes 556,153 bytes 02:30:58.841
16 2:34:54.868 0:08:40.061 34,786 kbps 47,713 kbps 02:40:36.501 37,367 kbps 02:40:33.790 36,372 kbps 02:41:18.752 181,359 bytes 463,309 bytes 02:36:16.200
17 2:43:34.930 0:00:01.001 25 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 148 bytes 167 bytes 02:43:35.597
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 9815.806 34,726 42,608,211,074 231,706,395
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA deu (German) 9815.806 650 797,542,560 5,013,600
00000.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 9815.806 657 805,901,848 5,048,755
00000.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 9815.806 666 817,688,204 5,127,464
00000.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 9815.806 25 31,200,672 180,446
00000.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 9815.806 0 502,887 2,836
Report del disco 2 con il secondo atto:
Codice:Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00000.MPLS AVC 2:34:51 45,081,904,512 46,422,129,139 38.82 34.87 DTS-HD Master 2.0 657Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
Codice:
DISC INFO:
Disc Title: 1900 TEIL 2
Disc Label: 1900 TEIL 2
Disc Size: 46,422,129,139 bytes
Protection: AACS
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:34:51.073 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 45,081,904,512 bytes
Total Bitrate: 38.82 Mbps
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 34872 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio German 657 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 657 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 629 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 629 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 641 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 641 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics German 26.114 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.022 kbps
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:34:51.073 45,081,904,512 38,817
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:09:18.099 33,845 kbps 47,612 kbps 00:00:58.516 37,590 kbps 00:01:10.904 36,357 kbps 00:01:11.029 176,439 bytes 701,268 bytes 00:00:19.936
2 0:09:18.099 0:09:14.470 34,980 kbps 46,195 kbps 00:10:11.277 37,750 kbps 00:10:10.901 36,097 kbps 00:10:11.277 182,367 bytes 554,889 bytes 00:09:20.059
3 0:18:32.569 0:11:19.178 34,954 kbps 47,628 kbps 00:21:29.162 37,351 kbps 00:22:49.659 36,137 kbps 00:22:34.269 182,237 bytes 450,531 bytes 00:27:19.929
4 0:29:51.748 0:08:56.911 34,982 kbps 45,682 kbps 00:30:01.716 37,162 kbps 00:34:25.354 36,356 kbps 00:34:25.354 182,380 bytes 549,695 bytes 00:36:51.751
5 0:38:48.659 0:08:52.073 35,004 kbps 44,542 kbps 00:46:43.008 37,440 kbps 00:42:10.194 36,306 kbps 00:44:12.941 182,497 bytes 497,764 bytes 00:44:19.948
6 0:47:40.732 0:08:24.545 35,001 kbps 43,747 kbps 00:50:21.268 36,996 kbps 00:49:34.096 36,301 kbps 00:53:25.285 182,478 bytes 511,856 bytes 00:50:32.070
7 0:56:05.278 0:07:08.678 34,981 kbps 43,074 kbps 01:01:40.863 37,239 kbps 00:58:15.742 36,239 kbps 00:58:13.656 182,375 bytes 426,171 bytes 00:58:07.192
8 1:03:13.956 0:11:02.370 34,993 kbps 44,958 kbps 01:10:23.010 37,135 kbps 01:10:03.949 36,258 kbps 01:10:58.963 182,440 bytes 602,741 bytes 01:09:36.130
9 1:14:16.326 0:08:41.729 34,977 kbps 46,808 kbps 01:19:19.045 37,275 kbps 01:19:43.862 36,227 kbps 01:19:43.862 182,354 bytes 479,563 bytes 01:16:35.882
10 1:22:58.056 0:08:07.695 34,999 kbps 46,631 kbps 01:25:39.843 38,096 kbps 01:24:12.338 36,175 kbps 01:29:04.589 182,467 bytes 522,930 bytes 01:23:40.140
11 1:31:05.751 0:07:41.461 34,997 kbps 44,017 kbps 01:31:07.170 37,168 kbps 01:31:06.502 36,148 kbps 01:31:06.627 182,460 bytes 453,855 bytes 01:31:06.711
12 1:38:47.212 0:16:18.185 34,981 kbps 49,352 kbps 01:49:01.159 37,558 kbps 01:51:48.326 36,463 kbps 01:52:17.188 182,374 bytes 606,992 bytes 01:50:12.063
13 1:55:05.398 0:08:34.388 34,912 kbps 48,901 kbps 01:57:01.097 37,511 kbps 02:00:02.069 36,240 kbps 02:02:21.792 182,016 bytes 603,548 bytes 02:03:38.744
14 2:03:39.787 0:08:03.107 34,963 kbps 48,355 kbps 02:08:57.896 37,211 kbps 02:08:57.771 36,040 kbps 02:07:31.727 182,282 bytes 559,879 bytes 02:03:40.746
15 2:11:42.895 0:18:27.231 34,973 kbps 47,459 kbps 02:28:02.415 38,002 kbps 02:29:53.150 36,254 kbps 02:20:08.817 182,336 bytes 638,395 bytes 02:28:18.431
16 2:30:10.126 0:04:40.947 33,727 kbps 48,797 kbps 02:34:47.653 38,422 kbps 02:34:43.691 36,215 kbps 02:34:38.644 175,913 bytes 521,431 bytes 02:34:42.773
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 9290.990 34,872 40,499,832,819 220,239,899
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA deu (German) 9290.990 657 763,500,796 4,795,005
00000.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 9290.990 629 730,858,380 4,602,947
00000.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 9290.990 641 743,917,036 4,677,136
00000.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 9290.990 26 30,328,171 175,205
00000.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 9290.990 0 25,507 154
Il nostro è più compresso, non c'è dubbio. Meglio quello koch.
Si, per quanto riguarda il video la Koch batte sia la CG che l'edizione francese.
La CG invece ha l'audio migliore, sia per la traccia ITA che per quella ENG.
Gli extra della Koch sono tutti in inglese o francese con sottotitoli solo in tedesco.
avevo già detto più e più volte che la Koch era la migliore versione (così come di aver confermato che i sub non erano forced), ma contento cmq di aver visto la comparison. sono curioso invece per l'audio: il motivo dell'audio migliore sulla CG sarebbe per?
Anche io ho preso la tedesca in offerta, era inevitabile che la CG, con gli exta corposi inseriti nei 2 dischi del film, avesse più compressione, grazie delle comparazioni!
Peccato per le scritte in tedesco nel libretto e nei menù, ma il cofanetto è di un'altra categoria, il CD della colonna sonora completa il tutto.
Tracce audio Koch:
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 629 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 629 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 641 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 641 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 256 kbps / 16-bit)
Tracce audio CG:
DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 1289 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1289 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 1351 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1351 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
stavo per scriverlo io Dario, grazie. ma visto che il forumer marcop dice che l'audio è migliore sul CG, avendo entrambe le versioni, vuol dire che è riuscito a sentire delle differenze tangibili tra i due dischi. posso chiedere con quale setup ha ascoltato il tutto? o comunque se ci riassume le migliorie di una rispetto all'altra?