[BD] Blu-Ray Eagle collana Il Collezionista

Sulla linea dell'altro thread relativo alla collana di blu-ray della Eagle "Indimenticabili" apro questo sulla nuova collana "Il Collezionista".
La collana mi sembra un passo avanti rispetto al passato, con custodie tutte sempre dello stesso colore (nere) e sicuramente molto piu' eleganti rispetto a quelle delle loro precedenti collane.
Inoltre sembra che tutte le edizioni di questa collana verranno proposte in combo con il film su disco blu-ray e su disco dvd, e per quanto io non me ne faccia assolutamente nulla del dvd trovo questa idea ottima, e finalmente una label italiana si e' decisa a cercare concretamente di pensionare il vecchio supporto, e sicuramente se avessero iniziato prima a farlo, ora i dvd non esisterebbero piu'.
Comincio con i 3 titoli della collana in mio possesso, e invito chi ha altri titoli di postare le proprie impressioni qui.

Amores Perros - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...98#post4943898

Balla coi lupi (versione integrale) - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...86#post4958086

Dune - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...95#post4943895

Fuga da New York - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...66#post4958166

La Passione di Cristo - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...18#post4971718

Monster's Ball - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...04#post4943904

Traffic - https://www.avmagazine.it/forum/70-b...04#post4971804

Dune

BD Universal US vs BD Eagle Il Collezionista
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131130/

BD Marketing 3D DE vs BD Eagle Il Collezionista
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131132/

Report del disco:

Codice:

Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 01002.MPLS AVC 2:16:26 40.632.268.800 40.949.677.894 39,71 32,99 DTS-HD Master 2.0 1585Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)

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DISC INFO: Disc Title: DUNE Disc Size: 40.949.677.894 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: Yes Extras: 50Hz Content BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 01002.MPLS Length: 2:16:26.176 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 40.632.268.800 bytes Total Bitrate: 39,71 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 32985 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 1585 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1585 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio English 2927 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2927 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics Italian 18,819 kbps Presentation Graphics Italian 0,002 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00003.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:16:25.135 40.632.244.224 39.713 00004.M2TS 2:16:25.135 0:00:01.041 24.576 189 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:11:58.551 32.198 kbps 40.366 kbps 00:11:01.619 38.467 kbps 00:04:28.726 37.968 kbps 00:10:52.610 167.853 bytes 446.713 bytes 00:11:44.829 2 0:11:58.551 0:10:55.404 32.463 kbps 40.510 kbps 00:21:10.143 38.139 kbps 00:16:54.972 37.837 kbps 00:11:59.885 169.248 bytes 466.729 bytes 00:12:04.306 3 0:22:53.955 0:11:13.005 30.059 kbps 41.201 kbps 00:30:23.112 38.411 kbps 00:30:19.108 37.853 kbps 00:33:34.512 156.715 bytes 340.428 bytes 00:31:27.051 4 0:34:06.961 0:10:37.970 32.782 kbps 40.224 kbps 00:37:43.511 38.418 kbps 00:37:39.507 37.815 kbps 00:42:37.346 170.912 bytes 371.417 bytes 00:42:14.365 5 0:44:44.932 0:12:29.415 32.704 kbps 40.046 kbps 00:50:13.593 38.159 kbps 00:50:09.673 37.817 kbps 00:54:52.455 170.502 bytes 300.284 bytes 00:55:09.139 6 0:57:14.347 0:09:42.206 31.872 kbps 40.684 kbps 01:05:53.866 38.083 kbps 01:05:49.862 37.805 kbps 00:59:58.219 166.164 bytes 356.590 bytes 00:57:21.104 7 1:06:56.554 0:13:16.170 32.710 kbps 39.849 kbps 01:19:41.109 37.953 kbps 01:13:14.181 37.840 kbps 01:09:03.597 170.533 bytes 305.664 bytes 01:11:09.306 8 1:20:12.724 0:10:56.405 31.596 kbps 43.169 kbps 01:22:16.973 38.406 kbps 01:24:56.257 37.967 kbps 01:21:22.669 164.726 bytes 298.947 bytes 01:26:49.287 9 1:31:09.130 0:10:43.476 36.848 kbps 40.198 kbps 01:34:05.139 38.220 kbps 01:34:01.135 37.964 kbps 01:33:56.130 192.110 bytes 322.962 bytes 01:36:25.905 10 1:41:52.606 0:11:47.331 36.267 kbps 41.689 kbps 01:43:02.634 38.313 kbps 01:52:18.732 37.990 kbps 01:45:43.962 189.082 bytes 352.498 bytes 01:48:48.396 11 1:53:39.938 0:09:01.999 34.460 kbps 40.380 kbps 01:53:40.522 38.298 kbps 02:00:59.877 37.986 kbps 02:00:54.914 179.660 bytes 365.072 bytes 02:01:46.215 12 2:02:41.937 0:13:43.197 32.286 kbps 44.303 kbps 02:04:42.433 38.398 kbps 02:10:55.889 38.116 kbps 02:10:50.801 168.325 bytes 363.346 bytes 02:06:54.440 13 2:16:25.135 0:00:01.041 74 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 402 bytes 2.425 bytes 02:16:26.135 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00003.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 8184,968 32.990 33.752.787.587 183.553.187 00003.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 8184,968 1.585 1.621.401.204 10.043.999 00003.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 8184,968 2.928 2.995.316.816 17.554.047 00003.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 8184,968 19 19.257.409 111.276 00003.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 8184,968 0 1.691 16 00004.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0,958 101 12.087 74

Amores Perros

BD StudioCanal DE vs BD Eagle Il Collezionista
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131133/

BD Pulp Video IT vs BD Eagle Il Collezionista
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131134/

Report del disco:

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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00005.MPLS AVC 2:34:10 43,021,596,672 44,834,517,266 37.21 30.99 DTS-HD Master 2.0 1626Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)

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DISC INFO: Disc Title: AmoresPerros Disc Label: AmoresPerros Disc Size: 44,834,517,266 bytes Protection: AACS Extras: BD-Java, 50Hz Content BDInfo: 0.7.5.0 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00005.MPLS Length: 2:34:10.241 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 43,021,596,672 bytes Total Bitrate: 37.21 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 30986 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 1626 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1626 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio Spanish 2506 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2506 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics Italian 19.278 kbps Presentation Graphics Italian 0.155 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00009.M2TS 0:00:00.000 2:34:10.241 43,021,596,672 37,207 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:11:59.802 33,367 kbps 43,925 kbps 00:01:25.293 38,873 kbps 00:01:21.289 37,910 kbps 00:05:02.885 173,950 bytes 455,194 bytes 00:00:21.020 2 0:11:59.802 0:13:02.364 31,973 kbps 40,057 kbps 00:17:51.820 38,152 kbps 00:12:47.141 37,861 kbps 00:20:52.084 166,693 bytes 359,501 bytes 00:12:47.266 3 0:25:02.167 0:13:02.448 33,694 kbps 42,796 kbps 00:33:04.899 38,647 kbps 00:33:00.895 38,180 kbps 00:32:55.848 175,666 bytes 439,707 bytes 00:31:06.948 4 0:38:04.615 0:13:34.188 31,834 kbps 40,210 kbps 00:44:53.649 38,103 kbps 00:44:49.603 37,904 kbps 00:44:44.848 165,968 bytes 407,201 bytes 00:39:58.187 5 0:51:38.804 0:12:56.484 30,954 kbps 42,950 kbps 01:01:28.351 38,640 kbps 01:01:24.472 37,904 kbps 00:58:03.605 161,383 bytes 620,305 bytes 00:57:44.294 6 1:04:35.288 0:13:20.716 26,459 kbps 39,853 kbps 01:14:51.028 38,172 kbps 01:08:54.130 37,894 kbps 01:09:37.882 137,947 bytes 394,817 bytes 01:07:47.480 7 1:17:56.004 0:11:24.016 25,654 kbps 38,420 kbps 01:27:05.011 36,310 kbps 01:27:01.507 35,553 kbps 01:26:20.633 133,748 bytes 347,044 bytes 01:27:00.298 8 1:29:20.021 0:13:48.452 32,675 kbps 41,461 kbps 01:42:26.473 38,300 kbps 01:42:22.344 37,903 kbps 01:37:58.372 170,354 bytes 612,418 bytes 01:34:13.564 9 1:43:08.473 0:10:07.773 36,096 kbps 41,708 kbps 01:44:21.546 38,325 kbps 01:44:17.459 37,984 kbps 01:44:12.537 188,186 bytes 401,710 bytes 01:44:37.771 10 1:53:16.247 0:11:57.842 31,262 kbps 40,358 kbps 01:54:25.942 38,079 kbps 01:53:21.544 37,909 kbps 02:04:09.692 162,988 bytes 356,924 bytes 01:56:45.957 11 2:05:14.089 0:12:28.164 34,387 kbps 41,891 kbps 02:14:22.054 38,406 kbps 02:14:18.091 37,970 kbps 02:14:30.645 179,276 bytes 372,824 bytes 02:13:55.610 12 2:17:42.254 0:16:27.986 25,676 kbps 40,846 kbps 02:22:08.645 37,793 kbps 02:22:06.976 37,344 kbps 02:21:59.594 133,870 bytes 336,673 bytes 02:20:26.000 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00009.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 9250.074 30,987 35,828,633,534 194,849,486 00009.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 9250.074 1,626 1,879,757,992 11,588,460 00009.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA spa (Spanish) 9250.074 2,506 2,897,871,692 17,193,975 00009.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 9250.074 19 22,290,879 129,564 00009.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 9250.074 0 179,383 1,026

Monster's Ball

BD Lionsgate US vs BD Eagle Il Collezionista
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131135/
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/131136/

Report del disco:

Codice:

Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00005.MPLS AVC 1:52:39 31,797,682,176 33,002,772,410 37.63 30.98 DTS-HD Master 5.1 2224Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)

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DISC INFO: Disc Title: MonstersBall Disc Label: Monster_s_Ball Disc Size: 33,002,772,410 bytes Protection: AACS Extras: BD-Java, 50Hz Content BDInfo: 0.7.5.0 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00005.MPLS Length: 1:52:39.794 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 31,797,682,176 bytes Total Bitrate: 37.63 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 30979 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio Italian 2224 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2224 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) DTS-HD Master Audio English 2314 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 2314 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics Italian 14.295 kbps Presentation Graphics Italian 0.250 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00009.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:52:39.794 31,797,682,176 37,632 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:10:00.683 29,624 kbps 39,367 kbps 00:09:16.597 38,067 kbps 00:07:34.203 37,890 kbps 00:08:22.793 154,436 bytes 357,181 bytes 00:00:14.681 2 0:10:00.683 0:09:49.380 33,184 kbps 39,414 kbps 00:10:27.960 38,045 kbps 00:10:26.000 37,873 kbps 00:10:22.872 173,008 bytes 377,139 bytes 00:10:29.837 3 0:19:50.063 0:08:38.017 34,317 kbps 39,635 kbps 00:23:42.045 37,985 kbps 00:24:52.574 37,926 kbps 00:23:24.069 178,913 bytes 351,665 bytes 00:27:19.387 4 0:28:28.081 0:09:06.921 34,510 kbps 40,381 kbps 00:30:54.352 38,205 kbps 00:33:51.612 38,001 kbps 00:33:46.607 179,920 bytes 337,504 bytes 00:36:20.970 5 0:37:35.002 0:09:17.056 32,764 kbps 39,319 kbps 00:38:34.562 38,022 kbps 00:40:00.773 37,905 kbps 00:38:34.645 170,819 bytes 381,621 bytes 00:38:44.488 6 0:46:52.059 0:09:31.112 30,050 kbps 39,359 kbps 00:50:50.839 38,000 kbps 00:50:48.962 37,761 kbps 00:46:52.518 156,667 bytes 377,206 bytes 00:50:52.799 7 0:56:23.171 0:09:29.443 33,322 kbps 39,456 kbps 01:05:16.078 38,142 kbps 01:05:12.074 37,902 kbps 01:04:34.412 173,725 bytes 334,271 bytes 01:01:12.919 8 1:05:52.615 0:11:44.412 32,279 kbps 38,983 kbps 01:09:57.776 38,013 kbps 01:10:15.211 37,911 kbps 01:09:56.066 168,287 bytes 347,141 bytes 01:09:51.228 9 1:17:37.027 0:07:56.475 30,571 kbps 39,333 kbps 01:20:15.936 38,053 kbps 01:20:15.143 37,872 kbps 01:23:58.366 159,386 bytes 425,671 bytes 01:24:51.586 10 1:25:33.503 0:08:24.253 30,600 kbps 39,252 kbps 01:30:07.652 38,200 kbps 01:30:06.943 37,950 kbps 01:30:01.938 159,532 bytes 451,060 bytes 01:30:10.405 11 1:33:57.757 0:08:44.774 29,318 kbps 38,877 kbps 01:34:22.073 37,974 kbps 01:34:18.027 37,883 kbps 01:34:12.813 152,850 bytes 381,067 bytes 01:35:26.887 12 1:42:42.531 0:09:57.263 21,598 kbps 38,769 kbps 01:44:55.622 36,944 kbps 01:44:52.995 32,495 kbps 01:44:49.408 112,609 bytes 301,576 bytes 01:44:53.036 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00009.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 6759.628 30,980 26,176,429,982 142,357,837 00009.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA ita (Italian) 6759.628 2,224 1,879,484,620 11,264,704 00009.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 6759.628 2,315 1,955,654,744 11,692,952 00009.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 6759.628 14 12,079,115 70,919 00009.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS ita (Italian) 6759.628 0 211,469 1,215

Su Amores Perros negli screen 2 e 4 si vedono benissimo i problemi di una compressione imbarazzante sul blu-ray pulp. Se penso a quanti loro blu-ray ho in collezione😱 e sono quasi tutti sbagliati sotto questo aspetto purtroppo. Bel lavoro di Eagle.

Pessimi master però per queste uscite. Peccato.

Ma di meglio non c'é o sbaglio?

Si, purtroppo di meglio non esiste, che io sappia.
Comunque dei 3 quello che si stacca di piu' dalle precedenti edizioni per qualita' video e' sicuramente Monster's Ball, che pur avendo lo stesso vecchio master della Lionsgate (mi sono chiesto come abbia fatto dvdbeaver a non trovarci DNR ne EE) nella nuova edizione della Eagle almeno e' piu' accettabile, con un'immagine decisamente piu' naturale.
Diciamo che la Eagle almeno ha fatto il meglio che poteva con i master migliori esistenti al momento. Ovviamente spero che escano dei master migliori visto che tutti questi film lo meritano, ma dubito che succedera' presto, quindi se si e' interessati ai film conviene prenderli adesso che almeno sono usciti anche da noi in edizioni dignitose.

La mia infatti non era tanto una critica alla label, ma proprio ai master. ;) Chiaro, se non c'è di meglio, prendere o lasciare.

Allora qualcuno ha preso Balla coi Lupi ? Sono curioso di sapere se hanno fatto di nuovo un miracolo https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07N32TQG4/...v_ov_lig_dp_it

Ci sono pure gli extra nonostante le quasi 4 ore di durata. Ma forse sono sul dvd.

https://i.imgur.com/gbBG6lC.jpg

Quasi 4 ore di film, con 2 tracce multicanale lossless e forse anche gli extra, tutto su un solo disco? Qui un miracolo non basta ...

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Originariamente scritto da marcop76

Quasi 4 ore di film, con 2 tracce multicanale lossless e forse anche gli extra, tutto su un solo disco? Qui un miracolo non basta ...

Vorrei proprio scoprirlo. Io sono molto curioso. Nessuno l'ha preso e può fare gli screenshot?

Ho acquistato il bd in questione. Riporto le prime impressioni : video molto buono nonostante che un film di quasi 4 ore sia stato inserito in un solo disco. Molto buono anche l'audio e nella mia soundbar la colonna sonora fa il suo bel effetto. Gli extra sono sul bd e durano al massimo una mezzoretta. Sono in sd e riportano dei filmati d'epoca. Interessate il commento di Kevin Costner al film sottotitolato anche in italiano. Il dvd presente nella confezione contiene il film nella versione cinematografica ed è privo di extra. L'audio nella versione dvd è solo in stereo e non è nemmeno lontanamente paragonabile con quello presente nel bd.
Nel complesso ritego che sia un acquisto obbligato.

Puori fare screen?

errore sorry